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End of year bop

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 12:39 pm
by Josh
As Stacy eluded to at the last ents meeting, Adam and I have been working to come up with a end of year bop plan provisionally (and imaginatively (and modestly)) named ?Ultimate end of year bop? or UEOYB. Anyway, Stacy has given it permission to go ahead, and will be coming up with funds for it. Below is a rough outline of what we will be doing. Keep in mind that the plans are by no means finished. While we have used up the ?2,000 budget (well, all but 60p), ideas for spanglement, other ideas for where to place lights, etc are all very much welcome. The bop will run from 9PM on the Friday after exams (just before we are all kicked out).

In Venue 1
On the outer ring of the Octagon will be 8 Vari*lites. Along the spokes of the octagon will be 4 Pixelline rigged at and angle so the end closest to the centre is substantially lower than the end nearest the outside. As per usual, there will be the scrollers. On stage there will be a ?DJ Cage? (just over 2x2x2 m) made from the trussing in Venue 2. On the front of the DJ cage will be 6 prospots. In the centre of the stage rig will be the Studio Colour shining on the DJ from above. There will be 2 par cans with purple filters for general light for Gavin as well as a profile from LX2. The 4 1k 6 bars will be rigged vertically on tank traps and used as blinders. Stacys Laser will be on top of the DJ cage. We will have a dry ice machine on each of the two speaker stacks. The Smoke should fall of the speakers like a waterfall and should hopefully vibrate with the bass. There will also be 4 Martin Atomic strobes, two on stage (attached to the stage rig), and two on the back bar next to the UV cannons. There will be glowsticks thrown to the crowd (or sold) and a balloon drop. The ProWashes will be rigged on front of house 2, and the back bar (2 on each).

The 518s, 812s, acrobats and destroyers will all be dotted around the main bar/trussing etc on sound to light

So things that we could really use input on

Spanglement ? we want it to look really great even without the lights so any ideas/anyone who wants to take charge of spanglement would be appreciated. Keith thinks we may have some old UV reactive banners that we could put up so someone to chase that idea up would be good.

Rigging Pixelline ? rigging at the angle we described looks to be tricky, we think we can do it, but any ideas would be appreciated.

At the moment, the plan does not use the 1220s, the movitechs, or the technobeams ? if anyone has any good ideas where to put these they would be apreciated

Any other ideas on how to "pimp it out" would be useful

Josh and Adam

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 2:49 pm
by PhilTheMerEnt
You will never need 4 attomic strobes in Venue 1! - you'll give every single punter a fit! :shock:

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 2:52 pm
by PhilTheMerEnt
Sounds good though.....

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 4:33 pm
by Josh
PhilTheMerEnt wrote:Sounds good though.....
Are you surgesting we reduse the order to say 2 or just use them carefuly?

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 9:48 pm
by orudge
2 would seem more than enough. Those things are seriously bright. We've had them in venue 1 before, and they light up the venue pretty well - when on the fastest strobe setting, the venue is probably brighter than with all the strips on (and would probably cause a few fits if they could sustain it for more than a few seconds...). You could always keep our strobes up, and use those when you want a less powerful strobe effect, or want to alternate front and back of the venue.

Otherwise, plans sound rather exciting. If I think of anything to add, I'll be sure to let you know!

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 9:59 pm
by white_wolf
Rigging the pixeline the way you suggest you could do one of two options.

Option one(cheaper):

Get 8no. Half Coupler to Hanging Eyes, 8no. Bow Shackles and 4no. lengths of eye -to- eye Steel Wire Rope. Whatever length you will need to get sufficient drop.

Option two(more flexible):

Get 8no. Half Coupler to Hanging Eyes, 4no. Bow Shackles and 4no. Bullets and 4no. lengths of eye-to-openend lengths of steelwire rope. Then you can have any length you need and your not restricted to the length of the steel wire rope.

Good luck

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 1:03 pm
by Josh
Note new edit - only 2 atomic strobes now - freeing up ?30 for spanglement. Also will attach two purple filters to 2 par cans behind Gavin for lighting, as well as an profile from LX2

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:42 pm
by Spike
i;d prefer 1/2k fresnels rather than par cans :)

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:05 pm
by Josh
Ok, 2 half ks it is

Comrades! a problem has arrisen

i was talking to chris from northern light and aparantly the dry ice machenes use up 1 bag (which they will sell at aprox ?25) in 15 mins. there is also the problem of topping them up during the show (they take pellets btw) He surgested a low fogger instead, but that they only have one and so they would have to hire in another which would cost us ?300 ish - which we cant afford. therefore we have to eather look to another company to supply 2 low foggers and fluid, or get a lot of dry ice cheeply (and preferably a dry ice machene which does not need constantly topping up). i am not going to have these on full blast all the time, but at the start for the atmosphere, and for some songs thought the night it would be a good effect.

any thoughts? any good companies who may be able to do this effect cheeply? any chemests who can get cheep dry ice (and storage)

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:23 pm
by Spike
Is this effect worth the apparently massive cost? I am starting to have doubts...

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:12 pm
by alhaynes
I'm not sure from the description if it does not already do this, but I would be careful with the amount of space used on stage. The last bop is generally has lots of Ents, SRC, SSC, etc who wish to be on the stage. This means that the standing area on stage has to be maximised, normally with an extra large area to stand around the DJ!

Andrew

Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 2:49 pm
by Josh
I regret to inform you that Dry Ice is probably dead. If i can find 2 good smoke machines, i will use them instead - i will probably also get another hazer as last night wasnt that hazey and i would want the EOYB to be more so. I am planning on 2 Rosco 1700s - anyone had any experiance with these? Any thoughts?

As for the amout of space - yes it will be crouded. the plan is that stage left we have lights, center stage we have the cage, and stage right standing area for a few people - although I want to try and make sure we dont have too many people on stage for health and saftey, but mostly it looks unproffesional to have lots of people on stage.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 2:56 pm
by PhilTheMerEnt
Josh wrote:although I want to try and make sure we dont have too many people on stage for health and saftey, but mostly it looks unproffesional to have lots of people on stage.
:cry: <<sheds parental tear of happiness>>

Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 3:27 pm
by Josh
PhilTheMerEnt wrote:
Josh wrote:although I want to try and make sure we dont have too many people on stage for health and saftey, but mostly it looks unproffesional to have lots of people on stage.
:cry: <<sheds parental tear of happiness>>
Phew - i thought i was going to get ripped to shreads for trying to keep people off stage!

Actualy, If anyone has any ideas how best to limit the numbers i would like to know - ie who should be allowed on and for how long. The only people i can forsee always need to be on stage are the DJ, Me and Adam (me and adam sharing LX and Runner), and possibly someone to run Arkaos and/or someone to do filming (if we use the video camera)

Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 6:44 pm
by PhilTheMerEnt
Anyone actually crewing an event is entitled to be on stage at any point. It is sometimes good to have a couple of spare people floating around just in case - maybe tidying stage/cupboard/repairing kit.

For the final bop, any graduating Ent is most welcome, and indeed anyone who's contributed during the year. Please don't be offended though if you get asked to leave for a little while if the stage is getting too full. I think the best way to do it is just for people to exercise common sense if possible and not to hang around if it's busy and if you have no distinct reason to be there.